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I had a 7g that went up 0.6 I think. It really depends on the horse, and their parents, and where that foal falls. If it’s at the bottom of what it’s parents can produce, it’s breeding ability and PT will jump significantly. However if it’s close to the top then it won’t go up all that much.

Also there is the cap breeding line, only boosting will get you beyond that line.

@sabrebaby, nice horse, thanks
@silverstar, that's a pretty big jump!
@ammit, I guess I'm looking for ways to break through the SBA barrier where all my pretties get gelded. I am convinced that i don't want to have thousands of horses and I want to keep my breeding program small. I wanted to stay below 1000 horses and I already have almost twice that. Happily, i have only bred about 200 mares this season and like i said, i want to keep it small. (and I have a handful left not yet bred)

@sabrebaby, thanks for the offer. I seem to do okay breeding Reds to B's but once i try with A's and Blues, i get very few babies that pass. Then, I've gotten a few gold mares, and raised them, and then i breed them. And the only way I get to keep any of THEIR babies is by maxing them. i match papers and PT as close as I can. Many people here said they have to have even generations, but @Ammit said that is not necessary... so....
also I just now learned that the pasture bonus only works IN the pasture, breeding to outside stallions (which I've done when i have no stallions that match) has resulted in terrible results..

Even breeding isn’t a requirement in the game (but I will never breed anything not evenly bred), but it does help when tracking quality progression IMO. I have up to even 10g horses so far that I’ve gotten intact.

so based on what you are saying, @annismyrph, the mare "falling dew" above is fairly evenly bred, and so is the stallion... what went wrong?

I agree with Sharayah Stables , also @Fiddler ; being evenly bred is like being pregnant ; either you are or you aren't lol. I find matching generations even more important than matching paper levels for my breeding stock to pass :) I ve bred B papered Foundation boys to Yellow Papered Foundie Mares and gotten Blue papered fillies who pass, but the boys are generally B papered so even if they do pass they get snipped in my barn

the father is a higher generation , thus it follows he is a higher star ( if he was evenly bred ) and if the mare you bred him to was a 3g ; he was high enough to give his daughter a boost to make her better than her dam ;BUT the daughter wasn't "high" enough to give the father/daughter cross a boost high enough to pass. ConfluenceStables used a "ditch" to show the differences in breedabilty ; here is the article
https://www.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/52189/what-exactly-is-an-excellent-producer#Item_21

Matching ability is the ONLY thing that can maximize your ability to get intact foals. (when it comes to selecting the parents.) I promise all of you that the game can't see how many generations a horse has. Matching generations will not and can not increase your odds of intact foals. Anyone saying otherwise is giving incorrect advice.

Keeping generations even only makes it easier to keep breeding ability even. That is all.

@ammit what is ability?

Fiddler, breeding ability.

The exact breeding ability of each horse is a hidden number. Paper level is as close as players can get to knowing breeding ability. Comparison testing, Breeding Advice, and Strict Breeding advice will tell you how they compare to their parents and even other horses you own, but beyond that it's really just trial and error to find breeding pairs that are perfectly even.
If you can afford it, you could change the gender of a mare or stud, comp test them against the mares/studs you want to match them with, and change the gender back on the AGA horses. That is one way to know for sure that your horses are of even breeding ability. But it's a rather expensive and complicated process to go through.

PT is completely separate. It has absolutely nothing to do with breeding ability.

@mackz yeah, I'm not rich enough to do that.
@clynnrose, that's a good idea too. thanks

Humboldt is thinking about it the right way.

@humbolt I still have that first gift horse you gave me! she's 28!