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Ammit · Oct 26, 2014 12:22 PM

First news all flaxen horses, silver gene horses and double dilutes/palomino horses now are dynamically generated manes. Manes come in a range of shades based on the base color of the horse. Everything from dark silver gray to pure white.

I also added a new gene today. Available to everyone and already creatable. This new gene is not testable or GMT'able. It must be created. The new gene is dense pheomelaninand is responsible for creating dark chestnut colors. True livers and even black chestnuts are creatable in the game now. Livers are not super uncommon now but black chestnuts are pretty rare. Dense pheomelanin interacts with the sooty gene as well. A horse with two doses of dense pheomelanin is a liver color but one with two doses and two doses of sooty is a black chestnut.

Check out some of the new shades you can create and breed.

Raina · Oct 26, 2014 2:58 PM

Exciting! Now I need to do some creating! Does dense pheomelanin have any effect on red-based Champagnes at all? Or red runs, for that matter?

KerredansCorral · Oct 26, 2014 6:17 PM

Yep, it works on Red Duns. I just got this lovely mare! I thought she might be brown dun of some sort, but was surprised to see she was a Red Dun.

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2876307

Raina · Oct 26, 2014 7:38 PM

Wow! Gorgeous!

Redbud · Oct 26, 2014 10:00 PM

She looks black to me :D

Fools Gold Farm · Oct 26, 2014 10:19 PM

Probably a stupid question, but if we get one of these, will you be able to see it when you color test on the genetics? Or will you just get what appears to be a black based horse that just has "red based" genes? Im so going to go broke color testing. lmao

Raina · Oct 26, 2014 11:51 PM

It is not testable. Like GP and KP. You won't know horse has it unless you can see it or one of the horse's parents is homozygous for it.

Ammit · Oct 27, 2014 6:29 AM

If you have a bunch of modifiers on the horse yes it will be hard to see but hold up the black chestnut above next to any normal black. There is a big difference that is easy to spot.

DreamCrest Farms · Oct 27, 2014 6:42 AM

Well poop. For 7 years I've been playing this game hoping for flaxen black chestnuts in their true representation. Now we have them.

*eyeballs my empty barns*

Perhaps it is time for a 2nd line. Then again, it looks like it is super hard to get. Oh fiddle.

DreamCrest Farms · Oct 27, 2014 6:46 AM

Grr double post (sorry)

Ammit · Oct 27, 2014 9:41 AM

Redbud · Oct 27, 2014 10:03 AM

*Swoons*
What would one with cream look like?

Raina · Oct 27, 2014 12:13 PM

Okay, I gotta know, Ammit. Is that last one you posted (the rabi with brown points) just a Black Chestnut with pangere or does it have some other modifiers going on in addition to the new dense gene? It looks like what I've always considered a "Seal Brown."

Ammit · Oct 27, 2014 12:36 PM

Definitely not seal brown. The points are red black not brown black and the legs are not black at all.

Raina · Oct 27, 2014 1:01 PM

Oh, I know it's not Seal Brown. Just saying it looks like one to me. So what is going on there to create the points like that?

Ammit · Oct 27, 2014 1:09 PM

This horse doesn't have colored points. It does have pangere though. Points means mane tail, legs, and ear rims. Pangere causes the lighter legs flank and muzzle.

Raina · Oct 27, 2014 1:17 PM

Got it. The legs are lighter, that's why I was calling it points. Thanks for the explanation, he is really neat!

Ammit · Oct 29, 2014 6:28 AM

Guys just call it the liver chestnut gene. You don't call bays agouti colored horses or blacks extension colored horses :P

RenaissanceFarms · Oct 29, 2014 2:37 PM

Does the dense pheomelanin need to be homozygous to show up as liver or black chestnut?

Ammit · Oct 30, 2014 4:28 AM

It is poly-genetic you need the liver gene AND sooty.

The rarity of this gene will go way on the 1st. Get those creates in now.

Appy Jumpin Daze · Oct 30, 2014 3:09 PM

OK

So this gene is incompletely dominate? One copy is seen, but two copies have more effect.

DP without sooty = darker chestnut
DP/DP without sooty= even darker chestnut
DP with Sty/sty = liver
DP/DP with Sty/sty = liver
DP with Sty/Sty = liver
DP/DP with Sty/Sty = black chestnut

Yes? (this is all guesses)

Appy Jumpin Daze · Oct 30, 2014 3:56 PM

After GMTing a horse that had no sooty I will change this:

DP without sooty = darker chestnut
DP/DP without sooty= even darker chestnut
DP with Sty/sty = Dark red (like http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2881614)
DP/DP with Sty/sty = liver
DP with Sty/Sty = liver
DP/DP with Sty/Sty = black chestnut

LakeOndowaFarm · Oct 30, 2014 5:42 PM

Does dense pheomelanin affect the body color of bays? I just created 65 stallions with my heterozygous sooty HH without getting any liver chestnuts, but some of the bays are really dark:

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2884015

Does he have DP, or is he that dark from just the homozygous sooty?

Raina · Oct 30, 2014 10:06 PM

Lake Ondowa, that's just from the homozygous sooty. It only effects horses that are ee.

KerredansCorral · Nov 2, 2014 10:54 AM

Just had to post this girl I created this morning up here. What a color!

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2887727

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