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Ammit · Dec 11, 2022 5:53 AM

For the last several months, Haystack has spent hundreds of hours working on a back-end tack generator update for the site. This has been a massive undertaking that if it works right you won't even notice at all.

Once this goes live you still start seeing a new message when you refresh horse images "Adding backgrounds and items." This new system makes tack generation site-wide work the same as the advanced tack editor system. That means refreshes will no longer mess up your carefully arranged tack.

We are aware of the following bugs with the advanced tack editor.
** z-indexing (how images are layered on top of each other) does not always save correctly, particularly the horse layer.
** There is a known issue with tattoos and Chrome browsers.
** The advanced editor is not saving thumbnails just yet.

Now that this project is out the door we will be fixing these right away. They should be pretty quick to get patched, but I am letting you know about them here so you don't think they are bugs with the new system.

This is not currently running when horses auto age-up, but we expect that to be in place before the next rollover.

We do expect this system to have some bugs. If you see odd behavior please let us know about it so we can address it.

ETA: Looks like we have a bug where tack items that do not have metadata (because the horse was never opened/saved in the advanced tack editor) are causing the generation to crash and return no image.

The fix for this is to open the horse in the advanced editor and save it. OR just wait. We will have a fix out asap, probably in a few hours.

Oatsman · Dec 11, 2022 6:30 AM

You guys are awesome :x

Starstruck2 · Dec 11, 2022 6:51 AM

This is exciting!

ichigo · Dec 11, 2022 8:20 AM

Great work! Haystack deserves a break now, I hope you all have time to chillax and enjoy the holidays!

Ammit · Dec 11, 2022 10:05 AM

Looks like we have a bug where tack items that do not have metadata (because the horse was never opened/saved in the advanced tack editor) are causing the generation to crash and return no image.

The fix for this is to open the horse in the advanced editor and save it. OR just wait. We will have a fix out asap, probably in a few hours.

ichigo · Dec 11, 2022 11:17 AM

Noticed this with a few of mine, I just refreshed the image, or waited, and it popped up fine. Didn't even realize that was a bug

Ammit · Dec 11, 2022 1:00 PM

The above issue is now fixed. We also found an issue where some tack with no color was turning transparent. This has also been fixed.

Pot8oJr · Dec 11, 2022 2:54 PM

Hope this is the right place to report this bug:

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Ammit · Dec 11, 2022 2:59 PM

It is, thanks.

Kintara · Dec 11, 2022 4:17 PM

If I change the background, it puts the horse in the top right of the frame, and it gets that pixilated look of the advanced tack editor

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Starstruck2 · Dec 11, 2022 7:28 PM

My collectible foals are all levitating at birth :))

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MackZ · Dec 11, 2022 10:32 PM

I've noticed the shifting position every time I use the tack editor lately. If I just add items and refresh the horse's page, they stay in their original spot. But if I then open the tack editor, the horse and all tack has shifted up and to the left.
In addition, after using the tack editor to create a stall or something that requires moving items around, I save the image and everything looks fine. But if I go back into the tack editor to add another item, all items in my saved image are shifted.

Cherobird · Dec 12, 2022 5:52 AM

Thank you for the hard work guys!

Ammit · Dec 12, 2022 5:57 AM

Thanks, guys we are working on the positing issues. We don't need any more reports. :)

Ammit · Dec 12, 2022 8:51 AM

We fixed a bug where scaling of horses based on size was not positing the horses correctly in the frame.

The other bugs we are aware of, in order of our priority to get them fixed are:
Tattoos do not show on the body
It is not hiding adult items on foals or foal items on adults.
We are still sometimes getting images that don't load the first time.
Scaling down in size is causing excessive pixelation.

Ammit · Dec 12, 2022 2:46 PM

We fixed the bug where foals and adult horses were showing tack items outside their age limits.

The other bugs we are aware of, in order of our priority to get them fixed are:
There is still some alignment issues we are trying to track down.
Tattoos do not show on the body
We are still sometimes getting images that don't load the first time.
Scaling down in size is causing excessive pixelation.

Ammit · Dec 16, 2022 6:45 AM

12/16 Update:

If you tried to update a horse's image in the past 24 hours or so it would have broken as part of the generator was down. We fixed that issue.

Next, we rolled out a fix for the random image crashes. If you have an image fail to generate AFTER I made this post please let us know.

Finally, the tattoo manager page was fully regenerating horses instead of just refreshing the images. We fixed that. (Note there is still an outstanding bug with tattoos we are working on. Today's fixes became the priority).

The other bugs we are aware of, in order of our priority to get them fixed are:
There is still some alignment issues we are trying to track down.
Tattoos do not show on the body
Scaling down in size is causing excessive pixelation.

Kintara · Dec 18, 2022 4:04 PM

Thanks Ammit, they are much better now, just the excess pixelation on mine, probably because I have a lot of little ones!

Kintara · Jan 1, 2023 3:23 PM

Just wondering if there was estimate on when the excess pixelation might be addressed. I mean the horses image is fine until I add a background and then it goes horrible. I have to keep reminding myself not to add backgrounds or to change any mane/tails, I'm finding it quite frustrating to be honest

Kintara · Jan 1, 2023 3:32 PM

It happens on all my images, not just the collectables

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Ammit · Jan 2, 2023 2:05 AM

Kintara we have been dealing with other far more critical bugs and there have been multiple holidays. It is on the list, but since we don't know how hard it will be to fix we can't give an eta.

Kintara · Jan 2, 2023 12:03 PM

Kind of seems there isn't really any point to playing any more, I mean the whole point to the game is the visual images

Kintara · Jan 2, 2023 12:10 PM

Drafts and warmbloods seem to be fine, thus why I suppose it's not affecting that many people

Cavalynn · Jan 2, 2023 12:10 PM

@Kintara It's on the list to be fixed. I think that's not a bug that's worth throwing the whole game away over. In the meanwhile, maybe just skip using the advanced editor for a bit.

Kintara · Jan 2, 2023 12:11 PM

I'm not using the advanced editor, I can't even change a background

Kintara · Jan 2, 2023 12:12 PM

As soon as I gmt a horse it wrecks the image as well

Ammit · Jan 2, 2023 12:13 PM

You have been saying that since the blue backgrounds. If you want to leave you are welcome to. But "Kintara we have been dealing with other far more critical bugs and there have been multiple holidays." We work our asses off for everyone on this game, it does not revolve solely around you.

Kintara · Jan 2, 2023 12:13 PM

I would consider it a fairly big issue, probably the only reason more people haven't noticed is because drafts, warmbloods and riding horses seem unaffected

Kintara · Jan 2, 2023 12:14 PM

Actually I've never said I'm going to leave until now, not ever

Ammit · Jan 2, 2023 12:18 PM

It is on the list. Haystack can not get to it because the kid is home on holiday. We will fix it when we can. Like I said you can leave if you want or you can understand that we don't just wave magic wands to do this stuff. It takes huge amounts of effort. It will be fixed as soon as we can fix it. It is on the list because we noticed it and are getting to it as soon as we can. Threatening to quit because we can't get to this OVER CHRISTMAS is kind of absurd.

Kintara · Jan 2, 2023 12:20 PM

I actually hadn't considered leaving completely anyway, I just said what is the point, but yeh I guess I know when I'm not welcome. Point made

Kintara · Jan 2, 2023 12:21 PM

Thank for your last post, I was feeling a bit shocked that you just thought I should leave

Ammit · Jan 2, 2023 12:27 PM

I have no desire to see you leave but I also can't derail other critical issues on the game because you think this one is more vital. Members who had images not working at all, were a bigger priority than this. I also can't control the holidays which means we don't have childcare. All I am asking is a little more understanding that we are people doing the best we can and making posts like "what even is the point" is deeply flippant and unfair.

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