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Pintlala Farm · Dec 6, 2017 5:56 PM

I have gone thru a bunch of gmt's trying to get spots instead of leopard. I copied the genes of one of my mares but they are totally different. I have also re-rolled I don't know how many times. I added lp, lp, patn1, patn1. removed everything. Added lp and one patn1. Cannot seem to get out of 3/4 leopard look.

What am I doing wrong?

Pintlala Farm · Dec 6, 2017 6:23 PM

Have also gmt'd white factor down from large, to medium, to minimal to none.

fantasyfarms · Dec 6, 2017 7:18 PM

Link to horse?

Kintara · Dec 6, 2017 9:26 PM

I'm not sure what you mean, you want a full leopard, not a 3/4 one?

SandyCreekAcres · Dec 7, 2017 4:08 AM

I think she's wanting a 3/4 appy, not a leopard and can't figure out the combination of Llp and Patn to bring it about.

Pintlala Farm · Dec 7, 2017 9:49 AM

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=6051113
I don't want the leopard look, spots too small, would at this point even settle for a blanket. Like I stated above, I added lplp patnpatn, removed, added lp patn, lowered white factor from large, to med, to min, to none. Still basically the same spots look

Maribo · Dec 7, 2017 10:55 AM

Take off her PATN :)

TawnyEclipse · Dec 7, 2017 11:37 AM

I recall Ammit saying that there are many 'behind the scene' genes that affect the LP coats. Such as genes that shrink or enlarge the spots. I can't remember where she would have posted that to share though.

Stone Silo Farm · Dec 7, 2017 12:27 PM

What TawnyEclipse said. I imagine the only way you can guarantee the other spots (I imagine you mean the big ones, not the tiny dots) is to have started with a horse that had them.

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=4743413 is the look you're going for, right? Same combination of obvious appy genes... so unfortunately you may not be able to achieve that with the filly in question.

Pintlala Farm · Dec 7, 2017 4:26 PM

Yes Tawny something like or similar to that one. Maribo I did take the patn off and she turned back solid color.

I seem to remember reading something about behind the scenes gene and lp. Was really hoping that I could turn this girl into what my SS really want.

Thanks for the help

Kim

Kintara · Dec 7, 2017 6:55 PM

Yeh I think the big spots are one of the behind the scenes things we can't control, they are in certain lines and you can breed for them

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