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Stallion Futurity Rule Changes (update your forum posts!) and new Futurity Locking
  • I can see the drama and issues coming with the rules people are adding to their stallion posts. I am going to double down on the no rules for publicly listed live covers and forum posts. Private deals must be done in private. However, I recognize that there is a need there for those seeking futurity listings. So I am adding a new feature Futurity Locking.

    Futurity Locking


    When you go to the control panel of a futurity-eligible foal you will see a new button option " Futurity Lock". If you futurity lock a horse it can not be sold directly back to the game until it hits six years of age. It can still be sold and auctioned. If you auction a Futurity Locked horse the auction bidder account will not bid and you will be the one to place the starting bid. There is no way to delete a futurity locked horse until it hits age six.

    Again however only qualified horses can be locked. The horse must be sired by a stallion you have never owned.

    Forum Rules Clarification


    You can not extract any promises in your forum post or on your stallion's public notes. People try their best but mistakes happen, horses get sold, months go by. There is no way people are going to remember this stuff. You can not ask someone to promise they will not sell a foal or that they will futurity lock a foal. You can not require futurity locking publicly in any way.

    If you have asked for any promises of keeping a foal in your posts please update them asap. Posts not updated in a timely manner will be locked.

    What you can do:
    You can absolutely bribe people to futurity lock. This is far less likely to cause hurt feelings. You can give people a replacement straw if they lock the foal. Or offer to send them a cash payout if they lock the foal. You can refund the breeding fee if they lock the foal. Go for bribes, not promises

    Straw Swaps
    Straw swaps are allowed on the forum only if there are no promises being made. You can of course sell straws with short expiration dates and other tactics to make sure they get used promptly. Straw swaps done privately over PM, in chat rooms, etc can have whatever rules you want to be attached to them, but I won't get involved if any drama results. Don't be an agent of drama.


    Futurity Rule Changes


    Looking into the future I can already see that getting enough stallions qualified every year was going to be difficult so I made a few tweaks. All offspring age 5 and below bred and owned by other players now count towards qualifying. To keep the emphasis on those studs who started 5 months ago though and to make the race more engaging, lifetime points of the best 10 foals create the stallion's final score. Before only points earned during the five-year-old year counted.

    Additionally, I have preempted issues with stallion swapping that I could see coming by making it so the foals must be bred and owned by someone who has never owned the stallion at any point.


    ETA: Before anyone asks I am not adding a bulk option for this at this time. It is not reversible and the very nature of the futurities means you will never have hundreds of these foals to mark at one time. Maybe in the future if I feel we need it but not just now.
    Post edited by Ammit at 2023-01-31 22:51:55
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  • Is there a way to see all of your studs foals in the search that are eligible? Or maybe on the page of each stud?

    Thank you again for the update Ammit :)
  • No, it is much too complicated a filter. You can only search for foals by your stud not bred by you.
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  • Ok that works though! Thanks :D
  • Ah, wonderful addition! Thank you, that will be very helpful.
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  • This is Awesome Ammit ; thank you !
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  • If I buy embryos from someone and inplant them using my own ET mares, will the foals still count towards their sire's Futurity ranking?

    I still need to wait one more month for my own first generation of mares to be breedable, so I try to find ways to help other players, and rebuild my show string at the same time
  • I find these changes to be pretty straight forward, thanks Ammit! I do have one question... for people who aren't really chasing futurities but are taking a more laid back approach, any chance we could get a bulk stand at stud for xxxHB tool? I've always been wanting to stand my studs I didn't use in a season, or even those I used some but not all breedings... but I forget. Obviously not a critical issue more of a if its doable maybe someday issue
  • I was going to offer top point earners 50k for my stallions top 5 foals and 20k for his 6-10 top all time point earners, even if he didn't make it on the futurity board. Is that still allowed? If not I will make the necessary changes and be letting the people who bought straws from him know of the changes. I can offer refunds if people want to back out of prior engagements if that is what's needed (which isn't that big of an issue for me tbh). If it's not too much are you able to tell me if anything else on his ad is not allowed?

    https://www.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/57753/barnraised039s-upcoming-stallion-introduction#Item_15

    *ignore what's previously said, I have made changes and will be speaking with the breeders that bought straws from me before the changes.
    Post edited by BarnRaised at 2023-02-01 16:10:11
  • Herzeloyde you are the breeder of the foal so yes it counts.

    DarkwatchStables - probably no. We already have a problem with too many stallions being stood and that would only make it work. I only want stallions listed that people care enough about to hand list.



    BarnRaised - you can bribe, you can't extract promises. That sounds like a bribe so is good.
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  • Understood I didn't realize there would be any sort of problems caused by listing studs that for my purposes are "OK but not *great*". Like ones which might be perfect for someone else but I have either just as good or better. Should I not list those studs? I don't want what I intended as a kindness towards other players to cause you problems!
  • Does a stallion need to be alive or under 19 and therefore still breedable in June in order to qualify for futurity winnings?
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  • @Foxhntr26 ; he needs to be alive
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  • Any chance that the requirement that there be 25 Stallions for any given class will change?
    Post edited by Fiddler at 2023-02-05 13:00:09
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  • Not at the moment. I will decide that as we get closer.
    Post edited by Ammit at 2023-02-05 20:57:05
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  • I just noticed that horses we own on the BF board aren't highlighted like on the regular boards.
  • @CheshireFarms I noticed that too. I just do a find in page to highlight my name.
  • I'm afraid I don't understand this very well. But I'm using straws from a friend for her. Some foals didn't pass SBA, must the foals be intact? And if points count, wouldn't it be better to neuter them all?
  • yes spayed and gelded count and I mean you could but the whole point of the Futurities was so that we would start sharing our lines as that is something that a lot of us don't do.

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  • Ah, thank you, Corvus.

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