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4/21 Image generator update: BIG Tobi update and tiny Chinchilla update
  • Very minor update to Chinchilla. For some palomino chinchilla horses, some yellow was bleeding into the color. This was fixed and all ee chinchillas are now properly pure white again.

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    Tobiano has been aggressively optimized and is now effectively instant to generate. There are some side effects to this that you should know of:


    Appearance Changes

    -Tobiano markings have changed. If you regen your tobiano horses you will get new markings. This was an unavailable part of speeding it up. It should not be a dramatic change in appearance though. You can opt to not regenerate, and your old markings should stay, though I can't guarantee they will be unchanged forever.

    -Please note! There is a good deal of variation at each white factor level. If you don't like that your horse gained or lost white/colored areas, please don't post complaints about it. Just get a new seed. You will be able to get an equivalent white-to-color ratio again. The range you can get for each WF level has not changed but the specific expression for each seed has.

    -This overhaul changed when jewelbox happens in the generation process. This was an unintentional change to how the gene appears. I apologize for that. That said I strongly feel this is a big upgrade and really improves the look of the gene making it more realistic and more merle-like. The new generation keeps the same lacey edges while preserving more of the base color in the large solid areas.

    Here is old jewelbox generation:
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    and new generation:
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    New Functionality:
    -I noticed that our dynamic tobiano markings could not make the pseudo-solid-looking tobianos (the ones you can't tell are tobi by looking). I have added this functionality in. It is pretty rare but it is possible to get solids or very near solids now. Your very low white factor horses may generate with less white on the legs. You can purchase a new seed and get more leg white without touching the white factor.

    A pseudo solid tobiano. They can have even less white than this.
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    -Tobiano mapping is now fully implemented and looking amazing. Mapping is roan edges around tobiano markings. Mapping can appear on any tobi at random but is much more common on horses with other kit mutations AND those with Kit Promoter. This includes horses with a single otherwise inactive copy of KP.

    Without mapping:
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    With mapping:
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    If you see any odd behavior please report it here, or just want to share your cool new generation or feedback? I look forward to your post. :x
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    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )

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  • Ah love the mapping it looks great!!
  • Oh I love the mapping! My childhood pony had really prominent mapping and it was so pretty. I dislike the KP gene, but may have to change my mind about that.
  • Thank you for the faster generating tobiano. I have crap wifi at home and it was a struggle.
    #243786
    LOST COAST STABLES

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  • Your wifi speed had nothing to do with it. It was/is all generated in the cloud. :) You don't even have to be on the page for the generation to happen.
    Post edited by Ammit at 2023-04-21 07:24:14
    Need to contact me? Read this first.

    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )

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  • Thank you very much for this tobiano update. I had gone to rarely creating tobis because it took so long for the images to be created. Now the image generation happens SO speedily, making them a delight.

    Here are a few that I just created. For several, I bumped up the white factor from None, so I could get a better look at the changes.

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    42123 DkARoRb 7


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    42123 DkARoRb 10


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    42123 DkARoRb 11


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    42123 DkARoRb 1


    Needless to say, I'm very impressed and delighted.
    =D> ^:)^ \:D/ :-c

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    Thanked by 1Ammit
  • These look amazing Ammit! I'll have to go experiment on some ponies. Thanks so much for continuing to improve this!
  • I love the jewelbox update! I had started getting a little sad that I'd put it on one of my main studs because it was washing out the colors so much, but after regenerating a few, I'm so happy with the change! And the new images generated super fast! :)

    Here's some before and afters!

    Before:
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    After:
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    CLRS14 Janx Spirit

    (I had thought for sure I'd saved his before page after I refreshed the snowflake spots... but I guess not.)

    Before:
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    After:
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    2G Santraginean Sea SUPXP


    The jewel box difference shows even better on my non-appies:

    Before:
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    After:
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    CLSUE Estonia Username


    Before:
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    After:
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    CLSUE Mach Short


    Before:
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    After:
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    3G Futurity 17447764


    Before:
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    After:
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    CLSUE Ordinary Storm


    Naturally it lightened my jewelbox voids a bit but they still look great!

    Before:
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    After:
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    2G JanxLucky17175392AGAXP


    Before:
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    After:
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    2G JanxLucky17175489


    I'm even more excited for my Janx line now. :D

    My only minor worry, is the amazing yellow from the cream on chinchillas like this going to be gone because of this chinchilla tweak? :(

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  • Thank you for the awesome updates! I love tobiano and get excited to see the new images :) the team is awesome!
    Licenses: Watercolor, Nacre, Splash M, Wrong Warp, Phantom Autumn/Lace/Diamond Sparkle/Web/Hearts/Shamrock/Muddy Puddles/Roses/Critter Tracks/Jellyfish/Birdtracks, Paintbrush Cool, Paintbrush Prism, Plaid, Shatterglass, Inkspot, Toner, Mushroom, DFP2, Onyx, Platinum, Ice 6, Ice 17

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    Thanked by 1Ammit
  • Thank you ever so much. My main line is tobiano, and I appreciate whatever work went in behind the scenes to make the generation faster.
    Game number 273531
    Licensed for Ice 9, 13, 17, and 18, Shatterglass, Nacre, Paintbrush Cool, Axiom Blue, Chinchilla, and Watercolor
    Breeder of Black Tobiano, Sabino, and Bay Kit M
    Sale Barn: https://www.huntandjump.com/member.php?uid=273531&b_id=38569
  • You have made me love tobi even more!

    And my HH create today is a secret tobi toooo

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    DD Lemon Tea
    Post edited by ichigo at 2023-04-22 05:12:28
  • Thank you! The image generation time had me ready to cull tobiano entirely!
    xhajsig
  • Not a complaint, just a confuse.
    This mare (Black Sea from today) had W20/TO at Light WF and had big white patches. I replaced the W20 with another TO and expected them to shrink, which they did. I want a larger expression, so I tried getting a new seed about 15 times at light, then at medium, and then at large. The most white I've been able to get is a small butt patch or mane stripe (in addition to her leg white). Is this normal expression at Large WF for the update?

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    0A 1Y Belton
    Player ID #250257, She/Her
    stable banner by AlAsseelStable
  • @StarsetRoyale
    With her being Hom Belton, the white expression is very little at those stages of WF. It has to be almost at max (extensive) to have a large showing when I search horses and my own modifications.
    Seahorse Farms #270748
    Spotted Warmbloods

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  • @StarsetRoyale ; Hom Belton shrinks the white factor to close to 0 expression
    Ammit said it would when she released the gene.
    This is my HOM Belton Stud with Large White Factor HOM Tobiano :

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    LG XP BeltonBoy

    Anni9

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  • I totally forgot that Belton reduces white. 8-}
    Thank you!
    Player ID #250257, She/Her
    stable banner by AlAsseelStable

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