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Yes, Please Exceptional Producers. Also, I dont think there are many Roan Tobiano or even Tobiano Rank Specials, so that would be awesome.

Yeah a tobiano exceptionally perfect would be nice. Some horses without any appaloosa genes..
And horses with a rare gene or two, unexpected. I love dp and sooty, finding those genes unexpectedly is always a big deal, as is nd1, belton, pangare
Base colors, i love both black and brown.
The most useful to me would have almost no white or appaloosa genes (except for that tobiano) with a smattering of the others i mentioned above. My favorites are the mars horse and the Nightingale. Perhaps a helper who is that rare super show horse, who passes on that ability to her foals

Doing some science out of 113 rank specials 11.5% have tobiano. So I can see how 11 percent can feel like hardly any to some people and a lot to others. :) Only 4 of those are exceptional.
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Честита Баба Марта
Hail Science!
Imani
Irish Cream
Shades Of Pale
Stars and Stripes Forever
Tan Lines
Vault of Stars


Exceptional
Dove of Peace
Heart of the Holidays
Shadow of Mars
Spiked Eggnog

Rank 5 exceptionals with Tobiano
Exceptional Producing Roan Tobiano
Exceptional Producing Tobiano
(plus 4 non-exceptional versions)



I feel like less exceptional ones are better though because it kind of makes it so the era breeders are totally sorry out of luck. You can always use a higher-era horse but never a lower one if you are breeding for the eras.

What were you looking for to define a "nice mare" Info like that is super helpful to me. :)

I used to only breed exceptionals, but recently got into era breeding, so I'm only breeding exceptionals with "for funsies" colors now.

Unlike the previous posters, I really like the app genes, but I'm actively trying to avoid breeding in varnish promoter. So a normal "evergreen" horse would be cool to me. I really like the hom snow horses, though I'm still not sure how fast they will varnish without the varnish promoter gene.

I'm also trying to breed lined chimeras, so I like to use chimera foundations.

I really enjoy when the "extra special" genes come to the herd helpers like satin, sooty plus, nexus, belton, etc. I certainly understand from a financial standpoint not giving away the top tier genes, but as someone on a tight budget, who allows herself a premium membership (but nothing else), it's a nice bonus to get some of those I can't afford to buy in the gene sales.

The only W# gene I prefer is W8, maaayyyybe W3.

I appreciate all you do to keep this game fresh and interesting!

Exceptional Rank Specials, Chimera, and the ones with surprise genes are my favourite. I personally really like the ones where I don't have to GMT the Lp off if they have kit genes, or GTM off the KiT genes if I get lucky with a Lp/snow/halo. I know I'm probably the only one that doesn't like to mix the Lp/snow/halo with the KiT genes.
Of course I am a huge fan of Bring Back the Sun, but that is more for personal reasons. Chimeras all the way :)

Shadow of Mars
Solemn and Still
Hope of Dawn

I’d be ecstatic with a dark buckskin with Belton, exceptional producing. Dream come true lol!

I like expros, I only really exclude champagne from my lines so no champagne. Everything else is gravy lol. I do prefer homozygous sooty and do not allow for W20.

"Everything Bagel"

Ee Aa Ff Pp Stysty Gg CrPrl Zz Dpdp DNd1 ToSb1 (or just say Kit gene required idk) Sw1S Lplp Rbrb Oo Gpgp Kpkp

*evil laugh*

@Ichigo, the "Everything Bagel" would have to have Belton spotting for those poppy seed flakes! ;)

=)) we know! We're wishing! (*)

Can you tell me what you love to see in a rank special?

I'd like more "true breeding" herd helpers that are homozygous for one or two fancy genes rather than het for lots of stuff. I sort of like the idea of "hidden genes" like has been mentioned but mostly I'd rather they were hidden because the gene only shows on red or black based so will come out when you include lots of base coats in the particular line. Like a herd helper that's hom flaxen and hom silver, so the mane and tail is light colored whether it's on red or black based. Or hom DP on a black horse even though it won't show without other genes.

I love all the champagne rank specials when I happen to be able to create them during Witching Hour. I have a few Hail Science! and Champagne Fizzies I was able to make classic champagnes that way. I love them! Apart from actual herd helpers, I'd love to see more create events to allow us to essentially "stack" herd helpers.

New fancy genes not currently on a herd helper (I don't think) but would love to see are gray reduction and splash M. Though, splash M could be a problem because it would have to create a license along with the horse, so... probably that's not going to happen. But I'd love more gray/champagne combos, especially if gray reduction could be added. :)

Exceptional producing or not?

I'd rather perfect foundation than exceptional herd helpers. I always just sell the ex per/pros, which isn't bad exactly because I often get 600k or more for new release exceptionals, but I'd love to have more perfect foundation rank specials to use in a new era line especially around the June events and era change.

What base colors do you like to see?

I love liver chestnuts (though not breeding that much in my new lines) and silver black. I avoid brown ever since the agouti update, it just doesn't look the same. I also like true breeding black pearl.

What genes get you excited?

Favorite genes combos right now and for the foreseeable future:

ND1, DP, S+, P+
champagne, gray, gray reduction
hom tobiano, belton spotting, hom snowflake appy
splash M, belton spotting
nexus, chinchilla (I know there's gonna be no chinchilla herd helper... :( )
nexus, hom KP, hom W20 (so only KP clouds show with no other white to distract)

I do have and like some satin (especially to add some color to non-fantasy lines) but I'd gladly forgo it for more S+, P+, belton spotting, DP, and maybe even gray reduction or splash M herd helpers.

What current herd helpers are your favorite?

My favorite rank special herd helpers:

Baroque
Black Sea
Blue Hawaiian
Breaking Bread
Catch A Blue Moon
Cherry Drop (for GMT projects)
Chocolate Cupcake
Clean Slate
Dark Chocolate (special favorite)
Baba Marta
Festival of Lights
Freaky Friday (special favorite)
Imani
Legendary Lights
Made in the Shade
Midnight Clear
Orca
Pomegranate
Root Beer Float (special favorite)
Satin Party Dress
Shaved Ice
Silver Pocket Watch (special favorite)
Taco Town (Even though it can't be het brown anymore. Maybe it could have DP?)
Tan Lines
The Blackest Night
The Hope of Dawn (huge bigtime favorite!)
Vault of Stars
White Wedding (Except that W1 can be lethal with tobiano. That's a problem in my current lines but it's perfect otherwise.)

Exceptional rank special herd helpers I wish came in perfect foundation:

Bring Back the Sun
Dove of Peace
Evergreen Boughs (Not as important now that varnish is GMTable off of foundations.)
Hidden Gates
Lapis Lazuli
New Coke
Nightingale Songs
Olive Branch
Pieces of Eight
Pretzel Twist
Shadow of Mars
Solemn and Still
Song of Sleipnir
Songs of Old
Storm Warning
The Bronze Age
Yule Log Ashes

What would the most useful herd helper for your account look like?

Right now, the most useful coat color (minus non-createable fancy genes) for my account would look like this:

E/E a/a nd1/nd1 Z/Z Ch/Ch Sty/Sty DP/DP
TO/TO Bl/Bl LP/LP snow/snow

Two genotypes I'd LOVE to see as herd helpers if possible:

Gray gold champagne tobiano (with belton) appaloosa (snowflake, no blanket) with gray reduction (Could be called "Flecks of Gold"?)
e/e a/a G/G Ch/Ch gr/gr
TO/TO Bl/Bl LP/LP snow/snow

Silver smoky black with S+ (My favorite coat in the game!)
E/E a/a Cr/- Z/Z S+/Sty DP/DP

What do you not want to see and why?

The only gene I particularly avoid is wild bay. (So sad that Witching Hour can't get rid of it anymore since agouti update... :( ) The only time I like wild bay is with Onyx or hom Nexus with KP clouds. I kinda like the look of a silver wild bay, a bright red horse with bright blue mane and tail, but I won't want a whole herd of it.

I have some chocolate but I don't really go for it except on brown chinchillas. It seems pointless to use chocolate to make black pigment brown instead of just breeding for liver chestnuts, especially since it makes the horse fantasy and no longer eligible for era clubs. The exception for me is with chinchilla when the black pigment pattern is unique, like on browns, so there's no way to get that look with red based anyway.

I don't care for any of the brown herd helpers since the agouti update either, as some of them don't have enough darkening genes to actually make them brown and anyway brown doesn't have the same shading pattern that it used to have (I loved the old shading pattern of browns, the new one looks more indistinguishable from bay.). But I used to love A Pint of Guinness, A Rhythm of Four, Candy Appleloosa, Paradise Play, Yule Log (all come out bay now because they don't trigger enough darkening genes, there might be others but I don't recall right off), and True Breeding Brown Appy (not RS but was one of my favs).

I love appaloosa but I'm avoiding it these days (except for snowflake) because you can never have a true breeding leopard appy line and I've found it more disappointing than exciting to hope for the perfect combo of het genes (like a D/nd1 chocolate palomino blanket appy) and rarely getting it intact. The only gene I love in the het state enough to keep breeding and hoping for it is cream. I love it on chocolate palominos, brown buckskins, and silver smoky black with S+ (all time favorite coat color!)

I like chimeras except for GMT projects because I do a lot of my GMTing in the lab and it gets expensive. So if it doesn't already have all of the little genes I want so that it needs only RGS edits, I'd rather it were non-chimeric. (That's why I love Cherry Drops more than Pomegranates, since it would cost more to get rid of the extra agouti promoter alleles.) I don't often make use of having different genes on different strands as I'd rather have true breeding horses.

I almost forgot! A hom dun, DFP1 herd helper could be a nice new special edition rank special herd helper. :)

DP
Sooty+
Brindle
And a vote for yellow papered horses for Era 15 :D

I prefer no appaloosa genes but I don't mind removing them in the lab

My favorite HH are Shadow of Mars, Chocolate Cupcake and Nightingale Song

I like the idea of a HH with DFP1 too!

I like bay horses particularly if they come with sooty and/or DP. I really like S+. I also like ee with one copy of Cr and one of Prl - that would be a great HH if we don't have it already. I use both ex prod and perf foundations so having both is good. Unlike other people, I really dislike tobiano because it takes so long to load up (sorry).

I think we already have a great range of Herd Helpers so if you want to add anything else that's fine by me, but I understand what a lot of work goes into this sort of thing. Actually, I don't understand it at all because computers are a mystery to me, but I do appreciate all your hard work. :)

@Ichigo I third or fourth this idea LOL. I always wondered what a horse would look like if it was at least HET for every gene, minus the Limited Edition Genes.

I've recently started playing around with this idea of 'Mustangs' in game. And only recently started looking at HH that are not ExPro or ExPerf. The idea of some 'pinto' horses with multiple white patterns sounds interesting.

Or maybe even a 'wild horse' dun, like a bay dun with reduced points and P+

I find people are always looking for dark horses, like HOM sty and DP because it also impacts the expression of other genes in the game.

@cheshirefarms, there was already a herd helper that was wild type or przewalski type called "Songs of Old"

Favorite HH:
Light In The Dark
Shadow of Mars
Song of Sleipnir
Nightengale Song

I breed with Exceptional foundations only so I have boosted some really pretty Rank Specials from some events to keep them in my lines.

I think another non varnish Appy would be fun to incorporate (only Evergreens have this). I like Appy spots but dislike the fading to white that occurs with varnish and snowflake.

I love all livers - liver red duns and chocolate palominos are my fave. I always love the Sooty Plus dapples on these bases.

White 3 is still my favorite Kit gene but I keep a lot of Roan, Tobiano and minimal Sabino. I hate that W20 maxes out Sabino so I try to cull it from my lines. I'll always love Kit M too.

Kit Promoter and DFP are my favorite extra genes and most of my studs carry them.

Ideal herd helper - White Spotted Chocolate Palomino with KP2

I have decided to help promote the new era starting in June any new rank specials I create will be perfect foundations. There will be older exceptional producing rank specials on offer as well mixed in.

A coke float! New Coke with Tobiano.

A true breeding dark brown Tobiano.

Brown with satin.

Just more hh with gray, brown and/or satin and pearl.

Have we already got the ability to make pearl or satin Tobianos?

Personally, right now and for as long as I can foresee, I'm mostly looking for E/E a/a horses. With cream, dun, gray, champagne, and/or silver would be great too.

I have a small amount of liver and gray champagne e/e a/a horses at the moment. I love gray gold champagnes and will probably keep a red-based line going, but it's not my main focus right now for new lines.

I'm also looking for a few non-sooty palominos and silver buckskins (really yellowish ones) to breed into my nexus line for some really dark midnight blue nexus horses.

I'm not really interested in brown until all of the darkening alleles are working to make the darkest version possible again. I'm not complaining about that, it's just a good excuse to wait on starting up a new brown line so I don't strain my pasture space so much. :)

Brown, bay, dark buckskin, black. Also a big fan of chocolate palomino pearl or silver buckskin pearl, but I love almost all colors, as long as they have sooty @};-