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I'd round out the nose, looks like the reference you use was flaring their nostrils. They aren't so square in the muzzle. And I'd straighten up those knobby knees, look like they are damaged.

For the foal I wouldn't make them so cresty. Their neck is still underdeveloped at that age.

the adult horse is gorgeous. the "baby" looks like a long yearling, but it is also beautiful.
so my only complaint is the foal looks too mature.

Sorry about that, here are some examples:

The hocks look like they have swelling and damage https://www.equinecool.co.za/equinecool/index.php/ct-menu-item-5/ct-menu-item-11 , they are Capped, Curbed and have Bog spavins

When they should be smoother https://cloudfront.horsenetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/27113705/hock-1200x675.jpg

I agree with CheshireFarms regarding the Hocks and the foal neck. I also think they have a slightly more rounded ( convex ) profile on the face with flatter nostrils on the Adult.

I don't belive a convex profile is correct for the PRE. You may be thinking of the Lusitanio.

AHHH CRud , you are correct >< Sorry Ammit I was thinking Lucitano ;

here is a nice Profile or a "resting " nostril as well as knees and Hocks of a PRE
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/beautify-horse-grazing-green-grass-fields-412537213

The horse is perfect in my eyes!

But there is somthing strange with the resting hindleg of the foal. I am not sure, but I think maybe the curved line on the backside of that leg make him look a little sickle-hoocked?
I think he may need to have a sharper point/tip of that hock, and maybe a more clear bend in the knee on that leg to support the pose?

I wonder if the near hind on the foal just needs to be brought down a touch so it doesn't read as floaty?

Very helpful thanks! :)

The horse we used as a neck reference is a 4 or 5-month-old at the dam's side for inspections. So I know for a fact the foals do indeed have next that size. I think you are right that it's an illusion.

As for the crest, people do not seem particularly excited for this breed despite voting heavily for it. Maybe it's a not enough neck issue?

I think you might be right. That big elegant arched neck on the adults is probably a big draw. I like Andalusians that are very curvy. The curve is spot on over the hip but kind of falls flat on the neck.




While Andalusians do have a straighter profile than Lusitanos, it looks like some do have a slight curve to their profile. So playing into that just a little might help.

The other thing is, I wonder how many voted on Andalusian with Lusitanos in mind? I know there was an issue with the reference thread with people posting Lusitanos. My other suggestion would be take some inspiration from the Lusitano and do more of a generic "Spanish horse" for now and do the more strict Andy and Lus later on.

I decided to a little fiddling to show kind of following the curve of the hip up into the neck and then following it a bit into the head. Far from perfect because I did it with my finger on my phone (and I got a little carried away because I was having fun lol) but to kind of give an image to what I was thinking.

Also,



His head is straight, but he has excellent curves.

I have also been thinking that, that people confuse the PRE for the Lusitano, who have a more curved conformation with big, powerful body and convex profile.

The Spanish horse that many people tend to idealize have big neck and very long hair and impressive front with high knee action, but a smaller topline and hindquarters than the Lusitano.

Maybe the full name, Pura Raza Española will look more intriguing for players who are not so familiar with the correct name for the breed yet?

I don't think making a "spanish horse" with the lusitano as a reference is a good solution, they really are two different breeds, with different qualities, breeding goals and conformation for a reason. It would be the same as using Arabian horse as a reference for a Barb horse, or a Shire as a reference for a Clydesdale, or a Morgan as a reference for a Saddlebred.

Maybe this is what people have in mind when they think about a stereotypical PRE? About the profile on the drawing, I think it is very good for the breed. You can find PREs with slightly convex nose, but also with a concave and a straight nose, and some even with a mix, like an S-curve.

@Ammit; I think both of the drawings look very typical for PREs! The first one maybe more typical of the popular modern horse today, and the 2nd one for the more old style horse, both of them capture what I think about when I think about the breed. but I don't know about the others. I suspect long hair may be something a lot of people appreciate with the horse

But that be said; I am not a PRE expert

@Ammit the quick and dirty edit is awesome! Move front legs down a bit, they are higher than the back legs. Foal just needs to have knees and hocks level to each other. Beautiful work, I will definitely be going broke and my hubby may disown me. Lol

I like the new edit as well. Though I think the hocks could use a little smoothing on the back side.

I need to put out something people like looking at though, and they like looking at stallions.

@Fiddler ; THAT would be amazing! Mares are much more Feminine in just about every breed.