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HJ1 will be changing to a once per month breeding schedule
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It is no secret that HJ1 is a much smaller community than HJ2. At 3 to 4 times the size, HJ2 really dwarfs what the HJ1 community can offer. That is because I firmly believe that the breeding once a month system is a better experience for new players, so HJ2 is the only server I drive traffic too.
As the HJ1 community get's smaller and smaller it will become less sustainable. Already we don't see even close to the amount of involvement. Once we are converted, I can push traffic to HJ1 and get things coming back alive over here. It is also a pain maintaining the two different breeding schedules in the code. Its going to make my life easier and updates faster by changing over to this system. Also going to make it less confusing for new players.
You guys are going to see a huge daily pay boost as well. HJ1 pays out .5 per point and HJ2 pays out .75 per points. When we go to once a month we will also go the .75 payout system. Expect to see a BIG boost in income for a while.
I am aware that some of you struggle to get breeding done as is. I feel you on that and am aware it is going to be a problem for some people. End of the day though if server 1 dies it won't mater how long you have to breed. There won't be any breeding.
Yes we have been on 2 times a month for almost 12 years but no one can deny the slump in activity over here. My choices are let HJ1 die off and eventually shelve it, (we have actually talked about that internally) or getting it humming again. I am looking forward to seeing HJ1 back up to full speed and thriving once more.
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I'm excited for this! Even if I end up missing an occasional breeding year, this will be a great change.Bluegrass #143376 * Specializing in Iced Axiom (ExPro Cobs) and Iced Phantoms (PF Riding Ponies)
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So with the breeding more often that wont mean our horses age every month as well will it?
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Correct. Horses will age every month just like HJ2.Post edited by Ammit at 2018-04-01 09:38:07Need to contact me? Read this first.
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Hmm, the main reason why I play HJ1 and not HJ2 is because I liked the relaxed pace. Now if I want to breed my horses, I am going to have to take time away from my other projects. However, I can see your reasoning. I suppose I will have to wait and see how this plays out.
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=( the horses taking longer to age is why i play hj1 instead of hj2 and its also why i spend actual money on hj1 as when i buy special genes my horses will last longer
I also thought there were more people playing hj1 as on hj2 there are hardly any good horses for sale not as many horses up for stud and i thought i seen more people helping others on hj1 -
Hj2 absolutely trounces HJ1 when it comes to helpers. They have whole chat rooms and clubs based around helping people out. There is always some contest going on there too. When it comes to helpful players HJ2 wins hands-down.
HJ2 also buys a lot more special genes than HJ1. Far more people are interested in them over there. The community is just more energized and engaged with each other.Post edited by Ammit at 2018-04-01 10:19:14Need to contact me? Read this first.
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I'm seeking the words, so not sure how this going to come out ... Kinda worried on the more expensive foundation horses that I have if they age faster. I guess that just means that I'm going to have to use AI more often, which I don't really like doing as I don't have a very good record on getting foals through the testing, and its kinda of expensive. But if it makes the system easier to code then it something that is a positive. When I joined I didn't realize that there was such a difference between the two servers. I kinda liked the slower pace of the game, but change is good. :)
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I haven’t been playing for very long, but I like and appreciate this change! I haven’t been on HJ2, but I do like the faster pace you are now offering! Don’t let HJ1 die out! I love it too much!
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Just when im starting to succeed at my game goals something changes =p
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Don’t let HJ1 die out! I love it too much!
Ya way to many people have too much invested in it to let it sink slowly into the dark. I would hate to see that happen, but like I said we really felt that that or this change was the only options here. I only have some much time, money and energy to put into the servers. It makes no since to do so for the one that is the poorer game for most people. I know it sucks for the people who like the two month windows though. I feel for them on that for sure.
And a reminder you still get exactly as many foals per limited gene foundation you purchase. They don't have any less seasons.Post edited by Ammit at 2018-04-01 10:23:18Need to contact me? Read this first.
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So when does the change take effect?
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This is the last double season.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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Ok, thanks. I'll have until then to consider what my long term strategy is going to be, breeding wise, since I don't have the financial means to adjust to the short seasons. So, thanks for the heads up.
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Like I said in the first post you are going to see a huge increase in your daily bonus.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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I was thinking in terms of GMTs, pastures and such bought with real life money. So I most likely will have to adjust my goals to compensate for the monthly breeding seasons.
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This is very exciting. Since I came here from HJ2, it has been hard to adjust to the slower pace (although I really liked it!) I can't wait to see the life come back here since I missed the activity and helpfulness of everyone on server 2.
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It will take some getting used to, but if this change will help keep HJ1 alive, I am all for it.Breeding high quality Sheldasen horses in all the fancy colors.
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Hmmm. This is the first time that I haven't had enough hours left over in my life to get my horses sorted and breeding ready/bred within the first couple weeks, of the first breeding month. In fact, I haven't bred a single thing yet this season, and I'm only going to become more busy in life in the near future. Not sure how this change is going to work for me personally, but I do hope it helps you guys be able to streamline and boost HJ1 for the future.
Happy Easter as well :)Go boldly, where no App has gone before!Thanked by 1Visions -
I had noticed how much less action there is on the forum for this version and felt sorry about that. The shorter game year will take some getting used to, but I understand and agree with your reasoning. Thanks for giving us a 1 month lead time into the change and for explaining your reasoning for it so well. Here's to a livelier community and lots of activity for HaJ1.
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I just took a look at my points to compare my daily show bonus after the change.
(2,845,025pts*0.75)/7 = 304,824hbs/day
Which means my daily bonus will increase by 101,600 hbs/day.Breeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes -
Is there no way to somehow fuse HJ1 and HJ2? Or transfer people & their barns from HJ1 to HJ2?Post edited by WildGooseHunters at 2018-04-02 04:42:11
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I had a thought but I don't actually play HJ2. Are the barn cost %'s the same there or is it different because of the shorter year? It's a month of show bonus here, right?Bluegrass #143376 * Specializing in Iced Axiom (ExPro Cobs) and Iced Phantoms (PF Riding Ponies)
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I agree with a lot of the comments on here. Breeding every month will take a while to get used to but I understand the reasons why it has to be this way. I had no idea that this game was shrinking, there still seems to be a lively and helpful community here. Change is always difficult for some people (including me) but everything Ammit has ever done on here has been for the best. Thank you for giving us a month to get our head's around this. As always, we appreciate your hard work and the pleasure this game gives us. Long may it continue!
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I think this is a good thing . I play on both servers and have noticed that hj2 community is a lot more engaging , There are more posts on the forum more interaction between players it just seems a friendlier place (that does not mean that people here are not friendly, I think the long breeding just means people come and go at different times over 2mths so the whole environment here just moves slower). Not sure why, Hopefully the faster pace will attract more people to the server and inject some life into the old girl. It more attractive to new people to have the one month breeding as they can see results faster and not get bored and wander off.
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For comparison I had about a half a page of new posts on this forum when I signed in this AM. And over 4 pages of posts on Hj2 forum. That isn't just from player numbers it's just such a big difference in how active the community is.
No there is absolutely no way to move horses/users back and forth between games.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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I understand why it has to happen, like you said I don't want H1 to die out.
However, I tried HJ2 and noticed that the shorter breeding season wasn't my thing, so I kinda quit over there. I only play here now. It will take me some getting used to (and I deffo need to start culling again to be able to complete my breedings xD), but I rather do that than not have HJ1 at all.
So thank you for giving us time and letting us know the reasons why!
Oh I forgot to add: Since we're getting a bigger bonus, will the limit of 10million in the bank also go up?Post edited by MasterStablesMS at 2018-04-02 06:46:54HJ1 160524
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Pretty sure the limit of 10M is in effect on both pages. You’ll just have to use the money or cash it in for IV’sBreeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes
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It will normalize. HJ2 players earn the same amount over time as HJ1 players. Your horses just have more points because they have more RL time. You will have normalized income after those older horses age out.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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Well, to be completely fair, for a long time the general push for New Players was toward HJ2. I'm not really surprised that it has a lot more players than we do.
Going over permanently to a one month=one year system is going to require some changes in play styles for us dinosaurs; I too really like the slower, more relaxed pace, but we'll just have to see how it goes I guess. -
They were pushed there because the retention rate is much higher on server 2. People are more likley to play so I lose money if I push people here.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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I'm so excited for this update! I've always found the other server to be more active and responsive, but I loved the wealth of knowledge and older players from this server, so I stuck to this one and paid for a higher membership. I love breeding and seeing what awesome combos I can make so the 2 month seasons were always so slow and a drag for me so I'm really excited and happy for this change! Hopefully it'll really improve the server and community!
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I love changes, but I am not super exited about this one. I struggle enough to breed as it is, I love my lines, and HJ is my way to relax wheb I can. I breed some horses, and then, the next time I have internet, I breed somemore etc.
I have an account ln HJ2, that I don’t use, because I don’t have enough time and internet for it, so the short breeding season is stressing me more than it enjoys me.
Is there any chance the extra price for barn bought with IVs will be a bit smaller to help with the transition of strategies for a while?
I also worry about the pasture system. Right now, my system is optimalized for the 2 months, so I rotate the mares to get full pasture bonus every 30 days. With the new system, this will not be possible anymore -
There is no reason to adjust IV prices because you will be receiving extra income to compensate.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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No, I will recieve less money pr breeding season, even with the compensation.
Today, I earn 462,510/day x 60 days pr 2 months (just to make it simpler) = 27,750,600 pr breeding season.
With the bonus increase of 0,75,I will recieve 693765 hbs a day, x 30 days = 20,812,950 pr breeding season.
(Please correct me if I am wrong, math is not my strongest skill)
Since I pay an extra 169% on stalls, I am really going to feel the loss of the hbs, and I am using a lot of real money on the game as well, expecially on real life gene sales, but also on pastures, premium subscription etc.
I know that I am a big barn, that is why I try to support it with real money whenever I can, because I really, really love the game :)
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You will also have half the time so you won't be spending as much on breeding. :D
Joking aside there is going to be some adjustment. The barn sizes on HJ1 are so huge that even though the community is a fraction of the size they cause the majority of server issues. Some of the barns on HJ1 are probably going to shrink in the long run.
I feel like either way that is an absurdly huge amount of money. Going from 166.5 million per real life year to 250 million a real life year? That is a stupidly huge amount of money. I don't know how you guys even spend that much game money. LOL
It's OK to be weary about this change. I don't hold that against anyone. It will be the best for the game even if I know it won't be the best for all the players here now.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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I have two accounts on HJ2 I actually stopped playing on the second server because I didn't like the fast pace of the breeding season and how quickly my horses aged out of the game.
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I am all for saving HJ1 in any way possible. I enjoy HJ2 but I have invested so much time and real money into my barn on HJ1 I would much rather stay here. I am up for pretty much anything to get to keep the horses I have gotten so attached to in the last 6 years.
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I must say I will struggle with this.
I much prefer the slower pace and my barn is set up for it. I'll have to reduce my barn size considerably and stop with any new lines. It's the expensive lines that would have to go as these take the most time to breed. I love HJ1 :( -
One of the benefits of this is being able to build a bloodline faster. I found that on HJ2, even started with regular create stock, I have been able to create and maintain a successful, high quality herd easier than I have on HJ1. After weighing the pros and cons, I think this is a good move.Specializing high quality dark horses with lots of chrome.
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Ammit - you can't please all of the people all of the time, but you can please some of the people some of the time! >:)
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Oh lord, I tried figuring out how much my daily bonus will be... I don't know if I should be embarrassed or extatic :-))
I will have to cut down alot on my breeders though. And I will be sad about the lost babies. I use the AI lab a LOT, so sad about seeing the doubled amount of eggs will go. Well, less GMTd mares in my future, I will have to throw everything at mah boys :)
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It'll take some adjustment, but as you said Ammit it's better to have HJ1 then not at all.
I'm interested to see how it'll go
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The switch can be tough. At first I thought I would never get any breeding done on HJ2.
But now I find myself wishing I didn't do so much breeding! I spend more of my time considering each individual match up, instead of just going for huge numbers and hoping the percentages work out so I'll have THE perfect foal.
I've never really played here on HJ1 much, my switch was from WHG to HJ2, but the BREEDING part was similar.
And OH how I miss my WHG! Ima tell you guys, you would MUCH rather give the changes a shot than lose the game altogether!Post edited by ConfluenceStable at 2018-04-03 14:56:31
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It's going to be a hard transition and it's going to be even harder to see horses that we have spent a lot of $ on pass out of the game so quickly.
But like all the changes that have been made, if its for the good of the game, well I'm game to try it.
I am going to have to reevaluate my goals now though. Must put some thought into what to do now. :-?
May I just ask though: Do you expect a lot of longtime players to leave the game now? Just wondering if that's what you mean by this comment
"It will be the best for the game even if I know it won't be the best for all the players here now."Post edited by GoldenSpur at 2018-04-03 17:25:02Thanked by 1fantasyfarms -
LOL, I use my $$$ on keeping my 14+ PT-line alive, I love that line, as it descends from my first horses created over 10 years ago. But maintaining the quality once they begin to reach the performance limit is quite hard, as it is extremly difficult to create intact foals, which means a lot of gmts and boosts, since most of them fails even basic breeding advice.
As I understand the needs for this change, I just wonder if you could consider giving us dinosaurs just a bit more time to adjust, since it changes the game for us so drastically, and many of us will need to change strategies and breeding plans, and save up real money for more pastures etc. Is there any chance you could postpone this chance to after the next double breeding season, just to give us this this opportunity to adjust, and make the change go smoother for us? So the first 1 month season will begin at June 1 instead?
It would mean the world to me atleast:)Post edited by Herzeloyde at 2018-04-03 16:08:06 -
That would drastically delay other plans we have going on. Sorry it just is not feasible.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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I usually get the bulk of my breeding done in the first month. It's just the naming and sorting that happens in the second. I'm going to have to seriously re-think how I play because I don't have enough time to do everything on a compressed scale. Suddenly I have half as much time to figure out what I'm going to do with everything. I'm going to have to cut some lines. Clear out pastures. Figure out what I'm going to do to keep up that isn't "dump all the thing
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I see this new plan helping tge new player but making it harder for old players i find breeding takes alot of time and it can be hard to have enough time to sort and breed so many horses with so many fantasy genes to breed now its so hard to keep up i wonder how long it will take me to get bord of the game as by time i log on the breeding the season will be ending and my good horses will be dying as this was my issue on hj2 but hey as long as im paying my monthly subscription what does it matter
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I'm good with the change. HJ1 dying would make me very unhappy. I don't engage in the social activities much anymore, but I am back to managing my stables(I'm still here, just quiet lol). I did not notice the decline. If I don't get a chance to breed every season because I get busy, its really fine. Pixel ponies don't feel neglect. I'm pretty much only pasture breeding anyway.
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While I do kind of understand after you explained, as someone who's been on HJ since very early on but never really played much HJ2, I'm surprised to hear it's the dominate game now! I knew this forum wasn't overly active compared to the OLD forum, but I think I was on WHG or not involved when the forum changed over, so I just assumed it was never as active as the old one...
From a business perspective, I totally understand the change. From a selfish personal perspective, I'm very saddened. I like not feeling obligated to log in constantly. I have a premium upgrade that I let handle all the showing and training for me, I just log on to hit the pasture breed button and sort through all the babies. Sometimes I get on a kick where I log in daily (like I have been this week), sometimes I won't log in once between breeding seasons. When I started playing originally, I was in college with minimal outside responsibilities aside from my dog and horse. Now I'm working full time, have a small side business, and have my own home (and all the responsibilities that go with it), plus the critters. I just can't put the same kind of time into the game as I once did and I like not feeling like I have to. I'm willing to give it a chance and hope it won't end up being a big thing, but I also won't be surprised if it's the thing that pushes me to give up my little guilty pleasure.
The reality though is, I spent WAY more real life money when I was a newer account (every time - when I was a member early on in the game's history, when I rejoined, and in the WHG days) than I do now even though I have more expendable income than I did in the beginning. Aside from my monthly upgrade fee, I'm not doing anything that financially supports the game simply because I make enough game money to buy barns, boosts, and gene mods (and I'm not into fantasy genes or tack really) and don't need cash infusions. I understand this change is strictly business, and a bunch of players like me don't keep the game afloat. If you can't get an adequate number of new players sticking around and putting money into the game, it can't keep going - and the HJ2 system makes it easier for new players to jump in and get involved.