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G1C Calli PF 1841035

Did those two foals pass SBA and then get papered?

Ammit, I don't know how to tell like you are able, if I altered his foals myself or if sba did it. I'm pretty sure it wasn't me, that sba did them all but I'm beginning to doubt my memory. I know I could un-alter all foals and then run them through sba again to find out, but you may have a better method.

But all of them? (no they didn't get the bonus I didn't get them all gmt'd in time to get a decent pasture bonus.)

And how on earth did we get passing foals before we had pastures?

I do over half of my breeding by hand. I still end up with about the same amount of superior intact foals as I do with my pasture foals. Out of 62 pasture foals, I only had about 5 stallions pass SBA and test superior to an Ex Pro (or papered A with no comp needed) and only 2 mares that did the same. Honestly, I probably end up with more intact superior foals hand breeding them. I run everything through SBA and 2G's must comp test superior to an Ex Pro or paper A/Blue.

Really, I think it's based on each person's preference. I use my primary pasture just to cut down on the numbers a bit. I like to do specific crosses. Say, like a homozygous tobiano to a homozygous appy to get a guaranteed tobi app foal. That's just my preference to try and make the most out of each season towards my breeding goal. Of course, I breed, basically, a red based CWARLN line. So, I need to make the most of my seasons as far as patterns. Most players only breed for 1 or 2 patterns/dilutes. Pastures are definitely a good thing for bulk breeding though and I still use my primary and 30 acre pastures each season.

As far as the 1/8 success rate, the mares had only been in that pasture 5 days or less, so I was surprised I got any that comp tested where I needed them to be, much less paper A/Blue. In the morning, I will go and check on my other account to see what the success rate was. Those mares had a full 30 benefit.

Meaning their goal for a specific line is to only have 1 or 2 patterns and/or dilutes (pearl, cream, etc.).

I was able to quickly look up my pasture foals from the 30 day group. These are the searches from each stallion in that pasture. I definitely had a better outcome.

https://www.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&jump=0&agee=1&gelding=0&spayedmare=0&aged=1&sire=18364880&56=0&57=0&58=0&59=0&60=0&61=0

https://www.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&jump=0&gelding=0&spayedmare=0&aged=1&sire=18373630&56=0&57=0&58=0&59=0&60=0&61=0

https://www.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&jump=0&gelding=0&spayedmare=0&aged=1&name=1844&sire=18391735&56=0&57=0&58=0&59=0&60=0&61=0

Oops, I use the 100 mare pastures for foundations. I use Exceptional producer mares and studs and get about 40% of foals passing SBA. I only keep A/Blue 2nd generations, so I cull more foals. And then I cull stallions or switch their gender to mares because I don't need many boys. End of the day, I only keep about 5 foals for breeding from my 100 foal pasture. Rest are show ponies because that's how I make money, show ponies. The goal is not how many pass Breeding Advice, but getting profitable show horses and a few horses to carry on genetics.

Well I bred the stallion to 15 random mares that I hadn't bred yet (gen 1 yellows) and 2 passed so he's not a total dud. He's my only stud of this particular genetics, and there are 6 mares. I'm wondering if I should change gender on one of the mares to give me a second stud and possibly improve things.

I appreciate the advice.

Trouble is, the average perfect foundation often needs 7 or more gmt's to get it to the genetics I want. But yes, what you say makes sense.

If you don’t have a stud with the genetics and/or can’t afford to make one, try putting out an ISO for straws with the genes, bone weight, etc you’re looking for. This is especially an easier way if you don’t have a lot of mares you’re looking to breed. At least with using straws you get equivalent to 1/2 of a full pasture bonus.

Also, if you want superior foals, make sure you’re breeding to equal ability (i.e. some combination of perfect foundations and top notch producers)

Duplicate post. That will teach me not to refresh.

Thank you everyone for being so patient with me. I think grey hair means grey brain cells.

Thanks, Ammit