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OopsDotCom · Nov 19, 2023 6:56 PM

It's Hom for chn, and Hom for DMSP

G4Blu chnchn DMSPDMSP 18594635

bluchrystals · Nov 19, 2023 6:58 PM

It needs the black genes. Chestnut Chinchillas turn all white.

OopsDotCom · Nov 19, 2023 7:01 PM

Thank you for your help. Got that fixed.

OopsDotCom · Nov 19, 2023 11:13 PM

Do I need splash maybe?

LakeOndowaFarm · Nov 20, 2023 3:10 AM

DMSP, like most of the phantom genes needs fairly large white areas to show properly. Occasionally, high leg white from W20 will allow minimal expression, but generally splash or one of the kit spotting genes (tobiano, sabino, or white) is needed. Appaloosa does not work with the phantom genes at all.

Humboldt · Nov 20, 2023 4:07 AM

If you gmt the Splash (sire side) you should get some good DMSP markings.

OopsDotCom · Nov 20, 2023 8:55 PM

What is the code for splash, please?

Humboldt · Nov 21, 2023 10:02 AM

SW1 in this case.

OopsDotCom · Nov 21, 2023 10:29 PM

Thank you

OopsDotCom · Nov 21, 2023 10:33 PM

Well I'm not impressed. I think you will need to click on the link to see the current colors, she didn't update here yet. Do I need a second SW1 or larger white factor or something else? I want more dmsp.

OopsDotCom · Nov 21, 2023 10:33 PM

(I tried posting it again but it didn't work)

Ammit · Nov 22, 2023 4:21 AM

Your images are cached. It is updated just fine.

I am not sure why you are expecting to see loud diamond sparkle from a horse whose entire line is very subtle diamond sparkle.

OopsDotCom · Nov 22, 2023 8:28 PM

I guess I expected to see some along the line where the white of her tummy meets the gray of her back rather than just a couple on her legs.

OopsDotCom · Nov 22, 2023 8:33 PM

Something more like this is what I was hoping for:

G3 chn chn DMSP DMSP 156331

ChateauAlbere · Nov 23, 2023 3:44 AM

The white in the foal’s belly is from the Chinchilla, not eh splash, so it won’t interact with the phantom gene.

OopsDotCom · Nov 23, 2023 6:17 PM

So breeding for DMSP when I'm breeding for Hom Chinchilla is a waste of time then?

annismyrph · Nov 23, 2023 7:25 PM

If you want Loud DMSP markings you need a darker base color.
Here is a Black Tobiano :

LG3 by Hallow dmsp5713906

Here is a Blue Roan Tobiano :

LG3 by Hallow dmsp 16892572

OopsDotCom · Nov 23, 2023 7:54 PM

How did the one I posted just above end up with a darker shade of gray?
And how do I get the splash up on his belly?

bluchrystals · Nov 24, 2023 3:32 AM

The foal has ND1 which lightens the base coat.
You may want to reroll the image a few times to get a louder splash expression, as the white factor is already at extensive.

LakeOndowaFarm · Nov 24, 2023 6:33 AM

The older horse you posted is brown, while the foal is a bay with only one sooty. To get the darker color on your chinchillas you need hom sooty and/or DP bays/browns or silver black. Remember chinchilla removes ALL the red pigment, so the more black pigment you start with the more color is left by the chinchilla.

OopsDotCom · Nov 24, 2023 8:57 PM

Thank you for the help.

Dense Pheomelanin says it adds red, not black. I think I better stop before I get more confused instead of less.

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