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lecobb8 · Jun 3, 2024 12:42 PM

I've been breeding chinchillas for a bit now, and I'm not sure that I understand what creates certain phenotypes without spending a long time sorting horses.

This "plain" chinchilla is my least favorite, but seems to show up with both bay and buckskin.

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If no silver, what do I need to do to get more shades like this rather than the one above? Or is it just luck of the draw?

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Silver seems to make nice dapples across multiple colors

Silver smoky black

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I've gathered that it doesn't show up on black, but has lesser effects on smoky black and grullo.

Grullo:

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Cavalynn · Jun 3, 2024 1:39 PM

Chinchilla just gets rid of all the red and leaves all the black. The difference between the first two you posted, the plain "white" bay chinchilla and the shaded bay chinchilla, is the darkening genes that added more black to the coat. Darker bays and browns will be shaded like that, light bays will be plain white. Breed bays with hom sty and hom DP and you'll get shading like that. If you want the shading to have a dappled edge, add S+.

Silver brown chinchilla hom sty, no DP:

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Silver brown chinchilla hom sty, hom DP:

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Silver brown chinchilla with S+:

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This old thread has lots of examples too:
https://www.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/57426/chinchilla-tips

Cavalynn · Jun 3, 2024 1:44 PM

Also, the reason chinchilla shows on silver black and not black is because silver dilutes black, slightly allowing the red "underneath" to show, which is then eliminated by chinchilla in a silver black chinchilla. A plain silver black typically has some reddish undertones that make the dapples a little muddier, so when chinchilla gets rid of that red, the full effect of the silver diluting the black with no other pigments filling that in makes for very dynamic dapples.

lecobb8 · Jun 4, 2024 4:45 AM

Great explanation! Thanks so much!

Want to explain platinum now? ;-P

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