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Next Round of KIT updates -W20 and W3 (now called W29) -Roan Update
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Putting this here so it does not get lost in all the images. With the update to w20 and W29(W3) KIT breeders have a wider selection of genes they can pull from that won't go all white when paired together. Some will with higher white factor but not low white factor. Some will never go all white. Hopefully these help you figure out how to adjust your lines if sabino 1 and white 15 are not working for you now.
As I said in the prior update if you need help adjusting your lines reach out to me via PM and I can get you sorted.
W20
-This allele was dynamic before but it has been updated to more seamlessly interact with other KIT genes. It produces a low amount of white on its own but has a moderate boosting effect when combined with other kit genes.
W20/- minimal expression
W20/- maximal expression
W20/W20 minimal expression
W20/W20 maximal expression
W3 was added to our game with Mr. Millions before the real-life W3 was named. It does not look or act anything like real W3 so Mr. Million's white is now labeled W29. There is no real-life W29 and never will be so I am using it to do something special for the game.
W29 has medium white with low boosting impact. It does not drastically increase white when combined with other KIT Genes.
W29/- Minimum expression
W29/- Max expression
W29/W29 Minimum expression
W29/W29 Max expression
Both these interact fully with Sb1 and W15. When combining alleles you will get a result that is a mixture of the two.
W20/W29
W20/W15
W29/W15 minimal
W29/SB1 minimal
W20/SB1 minimal
Each form will interact a bit differently wich all the other forms.
Last there was an update to roan. I found it was consistently not showing up strong enough even after the prior update. There is baseline more roan but you can also get more vby getting a new seed.
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she/her -
W10 and W8 are next on the list. I hope to get them out sometime in February. Those are already fully dynamic so it should just be a matter of slotting them into this new system. I expect only very minor changes to how they look. They will start interacting with SB1, W15, W29 and W20 at that time.
The big-picture goal for this update is to get all of the mapped KIT mutations in the game over the next year or two.Post edited by Ammit at 2025-01-30 01:44:41Need to contact me? Read this first.
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she/herThanked by 1MasterStablesMS -
This is so exciting! I love it!
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Px1 Can You See the Stars
Look how pretty my W20/W20 is now! I love the face white specificallyPost edited by paradoxphoenix at 2025-01-30 03:46:42Thanked by 1Ammit -
I have noticed, though, that all my W20/SB1 with “none” white factor have gone all white
xPx2 Ghost of Hope
Px2 Starry
xPx2 Stardust
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Thanks for the updates Ammit!
Will the bubbled white expression from the old W3 return to the game in some way? I really loved those bubbly streaks of white so I'd love to know if I would be able to breed for that again in the future, as white 29 looks very different from W3. I don't have up to date knowledge of horse genetics so that's why I don't know if that 'old W3' expression will return or not. A quick google didn't help me out either :P
And I love how the whites interact more with each other: so many exciting combinations possible!Post edited by MasterStablesMS at 2025-01-30 04:16:21HJ1 160524
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paradoxphoenix I saw that on a few as well and I am not positive the reason there. I will be looking more into it. Might have to do with the gene order but I need to do some testing.
MasterStablesMS I made it look as close to the old W3 as is possible.Post edited by Ammit at 2025-01-30 04:21:19Need to contact me? Read this first.
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Do the chances of lethal crosses remain the same despite the name changes? For example, the chart I kept shows W3 to be high risk when crossed with W2, and Sb2 to be moderate risk when crossed with W and W2. I'm assuming that we just read the chart with the new name substituted.
Thanks for all your hard work. I'm really enjoying these new changes. :) -
"I'm assuming that we just read the chart with the new name substituted." Correct
I am not touching lethality right now. After I have updated all the genes currently in game I will probably take a look at it at that time.Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
she/herThanked by 1WhiteValley -
Thank you Ammit for your quick reply! Good to know this for my lines on which genes to keep or not.
I've spent some time refreshing/rerolling my horses and I really love the update for the w20 expression! I love me some white markings on my horses so all my plain ones now have a little bit of white, or sometimes even a lot when they are hom w20.
Thanks to this update I noticed a lot more medicine hats in my barns!:
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Again, thanks for making this game more real-life like and keeping it interesting! I am looking forward to all the other whites that will be put into the game :)
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HJ2 136Thanked by 1Ammit -
I love the new updates!
Here's another that's puzzling.
I've been playing with the GMTs on this colt and he is all white with either W15/W29 or W/15/W20.
VXP sa KP Pride and Predjudie
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Thanked by 1Ammit
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Visions wait to do any more playing around. I'll look into it tomorrow. :)Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
she/herThanked by 1Visions -
I am obsessed with this update. Plus the boost to roan? My void roans look exceptional now.
2a16 Prime Example
2a16 Traveling Dawn
1r16 Inner Spirit
6g3 Golden Wine
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If one roan gene turns a young horse almost white what will two do?
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Roan is not progressive. It expresses the same whether hom or het and does not change with age
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is w15 the new sabino 2 gene?Post edited by bravo52 at 2025-02-01 00:36:26
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Sabino 2 has been renamed w15, and w3 has been renamed w29Thanked by 1annismyrph
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There was an issue that came up with w20 combined with other kit mutations and load orders causing tings to goall white. This has been fixed and I think the resulting appearance is a marked visual improvement.Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
she/her -
Mine look great now! Thank you Ammit!