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How do I get over 15 PT?
  • FogveilFarmFogveilFarm
    MessagePosts: 121
    Out of all my foals, I’ve only managed to get one over 15, and it’s just a 15.1. Honestly, I’m not even sure how that happened since every other foal I’ve had caps out at 15. How are people pulling off these over 15PT foals? Thanks in advance!
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  • darkphoenixdarkphoenix
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    Are you cloning, or just breeding? You have to clone them for the PT to go up.
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  • FogveilFarmFogveilFarm
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    I have done a lot of cloning but am not getting over 15 from it. My 15.1 is a clone.
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  • LeefeLeefe
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    Following as this is a fantastic topic
    When should you start to clone them?
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  • FiddlerFiddler
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    I’ve never breed above15 either.
    @Leefe clone a horse that has the genes you want and make sure it’s cap..
    But don’t clone it until you’ve boosted it. ( make sure it’s maxed too)
    So now your horse is *** rated, that’s when you clone it.
    Take the clone, max it, make sure it’s perfectly consistent then boost it too..
    If you need a double boosted horse to a double boosted mare, you will get PTs close to 15
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  • primaginaprimagina
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    If it helps, here are some examples.
    Highland Dark D 01C is a maxed boosted clone of a maxed boosted mare by boosted parents.

    Outlander is a maxed and boosted foal of Darker and Darker, who is a maxed boosted clone of Darker, who was maxed and boosted, out of Darker Legend 128C who is a maxed boosted clone of a maxed boosted mare.

    Suggestions is maxed and boosted by White Chemist who is a maxed boosted clone of Dark Chemist who was maxed and boosted (sire of Darker & and Darker and Darker), he is out of Darker Legend 128C.

    Now, theoretically, if I cloned the three of them and then maxed, perf consistency and boosted, I would get clones that are *** with 15 + PT. And, because this made me curious, I just cloned Suggestions, then maxed and perfect con the clone. I haven't boosted him yet, as the HBs aren't there, so I'll have to revisit this, but the resulting clone, after max is still a 15. Curious if that will go up with a boost, since that is for breeding quality.

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    PSTB Suggestions WCDL

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    PSTB Outlander

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    Clone 0 - PSTB Suggestions WCDL
    Post edited by primagina at 2025-09-21 05:59:30
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  • primaginaprimagina
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    Okay, following up on this:

    Captain, (Clone 0 - PSTB Suggestions) is a maxed clone of Suggestions by White Chemist, and I just boosted Captain +5. When I comparison tested him to White Chemist, I got "About as Good As", and so I tested him against Suggestions, and got Superior. That was when I realized I had never tested Suggestions against White Chemist, so I did that and got Worse. Not sure how I missed testing Suggestions to White Chemist, but here we are.

    I know that is breeding quality, and this was a question about PT, but its worth noting that had I paid any attention when I maxed and boosted Suggestions, I would have cloned him then, and used the clone for breeding instead.
    Post edited by primagina at 2025-09-22 11:04:27
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  • AmmitAmmit
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    The simple answer is start with a 15 PT horse, then clone it. You have a chance for the PT to swing up, or down, or stay the same. You need to start with a 15 for the best chances though.

    For those struggling to get a 15 both sire and dam need to be double boosted over cap to produce 15 PT foals.
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