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New Player help!
  • I am still trying to figure the game out and how to succeed. I was told to make money you need to have good show horses. Well I'm not sure how to make that happen? Do I buy a good show horse or breed one? What quality's/genetics make a good show horse? Any information and advice is welcome please!
  • Also I know this is hard but could someone explain the basics of the genetic testing results such as what is rare and if a horse has what type should I keep and if they have another should I get rid of?
  • Showing:

    Ammit recently made this much simpler by changing the showing system. The entry fees for the higher level and higher grade classes used to be very large, so it was easy to lose a lot of money entering horses at the wrong time. Ammit reduced the entry fees drastically, and the payouts to match. However, she added a weekly showing bonus which is, for now, 60% of the total show points all your horses together have accumulated. This is not based on their showing score, but on where they placed in the class. Every place except the last awards some points, more points for the top placers, fewer points as you go down the line. I have always showed my breeding stock as well as my neutered horses, and I think that's a good idea, even though the neutered horses gain an advantage for training and showing. My advice is to enter all your horses twice a week. As they age and advance through the showing levels, they will continue to gain points and so earn you a larger showing bonus each week.

    If you look on your stable home page you will see the statistics for your total points, your weekly showing bonus, and 7 day showing profit. Since Ammit made the change, I have had a consistently negative showing profit--several thousand hbs, in fact--but, since I've been hoarding horses since I joined the game in 2011, I have lots of horses showing. My weekly showing bonus is so large that a 7000 hb loss doesn't really impact the profitability of my stable at all.

    When it comes to breeding for good show horses, your goal should be to breed horses that have a higher average foal PT with each generation. The Performance Test is a marker of how quickly a horse will train, and so how high a showing level it will reach. An intact perfect foundation with a PT of 9.9 will level off about age 9, and reach Level 5, most likely. Subsequent generations with PTs of 11 will start to slow down their score increase between 9 and 10, but will continue to gain fractions of a point until they level off about 11, and will reach the higher grades of Level 7 or the lower grades of Level 8.

    Consistency is a measure of how much variation there is in show scores during a given week. A perfectly consistent horse will score exactly the same both times. A horse that comes through the consistency test marked Consistent might have up to a +/- 2 consistency, giving a 5 point possible variation in scores at the highest. An inconsistent horse's scores can vary even more widely. The final gauge is very inconsistent, but that doesn't appear too often. Inconsistency makes it hard to judge when a horse will do well in a show, but an inconsistent horse that tends to score higher rather than lower in its range can do well overall, and be very profitable. Some players pay no attention to consistency; others get rid of inconsistent horses. Since the change to the showing system, it probably is less of a factor that it was when knowing exactly when to enter a horse was critical.

    What is your Stable ID number? I'd be glad to sell you a show horse with a decent number of points. I'm thinking of this gelding, who is leveled off in a very nice place.
    http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2238855

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  • Genetic Testing results:
    As in real life, the most common colors in the game are chestnut and bay. Cream and dun are probably the most common dilution genes. Roans and tobianos are pretty common, as are appaloosa, splash 1, varnish, white 1 and white 2.

    Champagne and Silver have been in the game for quite a while and are also fairly common.

    Pearl is the rarest of the cream alleles and new pearl horses could only be created by the University, which is currently down for substantial revision. However, lined horses with pearl do come up on the market from time to time.

    The rarest gene, aside from those added most recently, is probably Satin, and it will probably remain extremely rare as only a small group purchased the gene when it was introduced and they've been very slow to share it with others, although new people are sometimes added to the group.

    Sooty +, White 3, and White 4 are more common than Satin, but are still relatively rare. The various Ice fantasy genes are rarer than these, but are slowly becoming more common, as ice straws are sometimes offered for sale. Sabino 1 is the most common of that group; Sabino 2 is a bit more rare, and Sabino 3 is also rather rare.

    The new variations of the A gene (At brown and A+) will become more common fairly quickly, since they turn up sometimes while creating horses of colors where nothing is specified about the agouti gene. I believe that DP is supposed to be much rarer, just as it is in real life.

    Splash 1 is quite common, but the new Splash 2 and Splash 3 are very rare right now and may continue so.

    As for what to keep and what to get rid of in colors, that depends on what you personally like. Selling horses is not the primary way to make money in this game; it's better to concentrate on showing as a money winner, which means allowing your number of horses to continually increase. Experienced players tend to be more concerned about keeping breeding to equal generations, and increasing showing ability and breeding quality as generations rise than about color, though I know that many of them concentrate on specific colors or patterns. Breeding for blacks, is fairly popular, I know.

    Speaking for myself, I haven't seen a horse color that I don't like, so I rarely cull foals based on color or pattern. For the various lines I've started, I keep those that meet the color test and are intact as part of the line, and keep those that don't for general breeding and/or showing regardless. I started out looking for roans, but my stable now has some of everything I can get my hands on. :D

    I hope, in all these words, I've come close to answering your questions. If not, just keep asking and I will answer, or someone else might, too.

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    Thanked by 1Jemimapuddleduck
  • Thank you Sandy Creek Acres.
    I'm a relative noob too and you've answered a lot of the questions I really wanted to know answers too but hadn't got round to asking
  • Thank you so much! You are a huge help!! My ID number is 213983. How much were you wanting for the gelding?
  • I'm glad that you both found this helpful.

    Cait: I have put him up on buddy sale for you for 500hb. Even if he levels out of his current 7W status and starts placing low in his classes, his point total will still bring in money for you.

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  • One of the best ways to make money until your show string builds up is from creating, and pasture foals. Creating often gets you Hbs in bonus's plus you can sell them through the public auction for nearly what you created them for. Also put them in a pasture before you sell them and breed them, and sell all the foals too

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    Breeding quality coloured sport ponies and cobs
    Hajinc - 145082
    HJ2 - 145
  • Thanks Kintara for the advice and thank you so much SandyCreek Acres for the new boy!!! Already have him entered and showing:) Also another question.. I am upgraded to level 5 so do my horses get automatically trained or do I still have to train them? Lately I try to go train them but no names come up.
  • They get automatically trained with L5!

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    Breeding quality coloured sport ponies and cobs
    Hajinc - 145082
    HJ2 - 145
  • They are trained automatically with all upgrades from level 3 up.
    Breeding high quality Sheldasen horses in all the fancy colors.
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  • Oh is there anyway for me to stop it? I'd like to try to space my horses out so I always have one at a world level
  • I don't think you can stop the automatic training, and it's not a good idea to skip training weeks, anyway, since the horse can never make up that training. It simply loses it. Horses level off at a point based on their age, not their training level, so if a horse has missed training, its score at leveling off will be as many points lower than it might have been times the number of weeks missed.

    There has been some discussion among those who play both this game and H&J2 over the fact that the horses here will level off at a higher point because there are two real life months of training here, compared to only one real life month of training in H&J2.

    Looking at foundation horses, I find that where they level off depends largely on what age they were when created and what point in the game year cycle their birthday fall on. In H&J1, I have a 12 year old mare created on August 19 early in a game year, whose PT is 9.7. Her current level is 5 Regional, with scores ranging from 143 to 145. She's been showing there for months, very slowly gaining about 2 points over that time.

    By comparison, I also have a 12 year old in H&J2 created on May 21, late in a game year, whose PT is also 9.7. She is currently showing at 3 Regional with scores ranging from 66 to 68.

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