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WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 4:02 PM

So if I were to buy one Gene does that mean I own it and can put it on as many of my horses as I wanr or do I have to pay per horse?

Dapplelight · Dec 3, 2018 4:11 PM

It means you own it and can buy/sell/breed horses with that gene. However, you still have to pay per allele to add it to a new horse.

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 4:15 PM

So For each horse I want to add it to I have to pay the $15 USD?

SandyCreekAcres · Dec 3, 2018 4:18 PM

Yes, you have to pay $15 for each allele on a foundation horse.

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 4:20 PM

Ok! Guess I'll be starting out with a Cheaper on to start lol

Dapplelight · Dec 3, 2018 4:21 PM

Depends on the gene, but yes you'll pay the list price per allele. So, if a gene costs $5 for instance, you'll pay $5 to make a horse heterozygous for that gene and $10 to make a horse homozygous. Make sure you put one of each strand in your cart though - if you buy 2 x Strand One instead of a Strand One and a Strand Two, you'll only apply the allele to strand 1 and have wasted that $5.

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 4:28 PM

Ugh..... Wish I saw this lol.

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 4:28 PM

At least I only paid $3.42 Instead of 15

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 4:30 PM

I feel kinda stupid now lol. Well at least I know for next time

Bandit1119 · Dec 3, 2018 5:36 PM

If you made a mistake you may be able to get it fixed if you message Ammit with the horse link and what you did

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 5:59 PM

I thought I only had to buy one thing not both so is that just a me screw up or do I message Ammit? I don't like bugging people over nothing

Dapplelight · Dec 3, 2018 6:03 PM

I think that by mistake, Bandit1119 meant accidentally buying two of the same strand.

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 6:07 PM

Ah okay. Should I message Ammit or just leave it and take it as a loss?

SandyCreekAcres · Dec 3, 2018 6:11 PM

All is not lost, though. As long as your horse has one copy of nd1, it has a 50% chance of passing it on to each foal, and nd1 doesn't have to be homozygous to show up, though you may have to reroll the portrait.

You actually have two horses with nd1 at the moment. :)

The stallion you added one copy to:

WestCoasts Test Stud

and this mare who got it spontaneously when you created her:

WestCoasts Blue Mint

If you reroll the mare's image, you may get the nd1 to show.

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 6:13 PM

I'll have to test it. If I bred both of these together would I have a Higher chance?

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 6:16 PM

Is this Pony what I think it is?

She's ND1 ND1

WestCoasts ND1

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 6:19 PM

He is ND1 ND2

WestCoasts TND1

SandyCreekAcres · Dec 3, 2018 6:20 PM

This particular new gene is not a closed one. It can occur spontaneously when you create horses, you can buy it with Gene Modification tokens, and you can purchase it directly this month in the Roving Gene Sales.

If you breed Blue Mint to Test Stud, you have 1 chance that the foal will be homozygous nd1, 1 chance that the foal will homozygous nd2, and 2 chances that the foal will be heterozygous for both nd1 and nd2. (I had to make a Punnet Square to be sure I had the numbers correct. :D)

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 6:22 PM

So for it to be the Gene it's ND1 and ND2? If so I have a Line started!

SandyCreekAcres · Dec 3, 2018 6:23 PM

Congratulations! The filly is homozygous and the colt is heterozygous for nd1. They both are showing it, although champagne, since it's a dilution gene, makes the nd1 shoulder bar a bit harder to see. When he grows up, you can try rerolling his portrait to make it more obvious if you'd like.

SandyCreekAcres · Dec 3, 2018 6:28 PM

Both nd1 and nd2 are recessive to dominant dun (D). However, nd1 shows some lightening of coat color and can produce a dorsal stripe and shoulder bar; this version of the gene is dominant to nd2, which produces no markings or lightening of the coat color.

But yes, indeed, by breeding those two horses together you started a Line of nd1 horses. :)

SandyCreekAcres · Dec 3, 2018 6:31 PM

P.S. Please don't feel stupid. Genetics is a complex subject and it can take a while to become comfortable with it. I've been playing this game since 2011, so I've lots of time to get used to it. I'm still not as smart about it as my daughter, who was doing Punnet Squares and Chi Squares in her head while she was taking genetics in high school. (That was a good many years ago.)

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 6:58 PM

I do Rabbit And Guinea Pig Genetics horses are confusing

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 7:16 PM

Just to be Clear ND1 ND1 Is what I want and ND1 ND2 is a Carrier?

SharayahStables · Dec 3, 2018 8:15 PM

Yes to your last post. ND1 ND2 has a 50% chance of passing on the ND1 gene. If you breed an ND1 ND1 to an ND2 ND2 horse, you are guaranteed at least 1 copy of it.

nd1nd1 x nd2nd2 = nd1nd2 foal 100% of the time

nd1nd1 x nd1nd2 = 50% chance of homozygous nd1 and a 50% chance of heterozygous (nd1nd2)

nd1nd2 x nd1nd2 = 25% nd1nd1, 50% nd1nd2, 25% nd2nd2

nd1nd2 x nd2nd2 = 0% chance of nd1nd1, 50% nd1nd2 (Hetero), 25% nd2nd2

I hope that helps! Sorry if I wrote the wrong % somewhere. Trying to do this on my phone lol

SharayahStables · Dec 3, 2018 8:17 PM

But a horse that is only a carrier will still show the gene phenotypically since it is dominant to nd2 :)

WestCoast · Dec 3, 2018 8:23 PM

Ok! Thank you that was so helpful I'm glad I didn't sell the wrong horses

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